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Date: Fri, 6 May 94 14:09:06 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #497
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Fri, 6 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 497
Today's Topics:
"Cruise Ships"
** FLEA at MIT ** Sunday May 15th Cambridge MA
2 meter lingo publication
BARA HAMFEST JUNE 4
Cruise ship radio operation
digital speech transmission for HAMs?
FCC Still requires 1st Class License
How to make a diplexer?
IC-02AT
Looking for IC725 Mods
Luck Hurder ... gone: ( Why? (2 msgs)
Non-existent ham software that should
Old article
RB324 - OPS - Responding to a Call-Out
Was this a bad idea?
why not on CD? (was: Best code-speed improvement tapes?)
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We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
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policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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Date: 6 May 94 17:25:43 GMT
From: agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!bridge2!Thoth!peter@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: "Cruise Ships"
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article 576@nich-nsunet.nich.edu, CS-ERH@nich-nsunet.NIch.EDU (Evert Halbach) writes:
> Might be lucky enough to take a cruise in the next year or so and was
> wondering if anyone out there has taken a cruise and did any
> operating from the Ship's Radio Room???? I would assume that they
> had something that would let me get on 20 meters?? Any help would be
> appreciated.. Thanks.
I asked fairly casually about 5 years ago when I was on the _Sovereign of the Seas_
and was told that the radio room was a secured area (terrorists, etc) and that it
wasn't open to the public. I did go by and looked through the window, but I didn't
try to talk to any of the people inside (who were busy doing their jobs anyway).
Peter
---
Peter Simpson, KA1AXY Peter_Simpson@3com.com
3Com Corporation (508) 836-1719 voice
Northborough, MA 01532 (508) 393-6934 fax
I speak only for myself, 3Com doesn't pay me to speak for them, so I don't.
------------------------------
Date: 6 May 1994 03:02:01 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!w1gsl@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ** FLEA at MIT ** Sunday May 15th Cambridge MA
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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*******************************************************************************
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PO Box 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 617 258 3754
*******************************************************************************
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Date: 6 May 94 13:52:38 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!qiclab!cadreor!fripp!usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: 2 meter lingo publication
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The fact that your writing a book on this lingo garbage is more evidence that the
2 meter band is lost forever.
"Forty-Rodgoes on that" - Give me a break!
What kind of garbage is this. The 2-meter band is turned into another CB
wasteland. I just heard the other night a group of newly licensed no-clue
techs hanging out on a simplex freq using all kinds of strange lingo, I
have never heard in 28 years of operation. It when something like this:
N1FOO come on back ... Yeah N1FOO come on back ... Yeah QSL N1FOO this is
N1BAR handle here is "Scorpio" and the personal here is Bill. Didn't we used
to talk on CH 12? Yeah these new VHF FM rigs are really neat, but I wish we
didn't have to go through the hassle of answering that application form to
get a call sign. Oh, well atleast they gave us the anwsers to the questions...
Well I have destinated, N1BAR over to N1FOO am going QRY...
All I can say is "73s to the 2-meter band"
DE KB1JX CL
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Date: 6 May 94 15:57:20 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: BARA HAMFEST JUNE 4
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
For those who are preparing the hamfest lists for the Middle
Atlantic/Northeast area, don't forget the BARA (Bergen Amateur
Radio ASSN.) hamfest in Teaneck, NJ 6/4/94 at the FDU Campus off
Rt. 4 at River rd.
Seth T. KC2WE
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Date: 6 May 94 19:34:19 GMT
From: agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!olivea!news.bu.edu!att-in!nntpa!not-for-mail@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Cruise ship radio operation
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello
I just saw some news come across concerning this subject. I just
returned from a cruise to the Caribbean, if you could only see my smile.
Anyway other than having a real good time I did stop at the radio room of
the ship and talked to the operator. I was standing in the reception room
ouside the actual room that contained the equipment. The operator gave me
a complete tour of his world, low band, vhf, satellite, fax, eg. Really a
small room. On this ship there were two low band, around 8 MHZ inverted
vee antannas. He said one was primary and the other secondary, or spare.
While I was on board I wanted to see the engin/boiler room, because I was
a boiler tender during one of my navy tours. I had to request in writing
permission to go on the tour, because of insurance and was warned I want
at my own risk, etc. Very interesting.
Now if I go on another cruise here is what I would do if I wanted to operate
from the ship. I would write a letter to the chief radio officer explaining
who I am, class of license, type of operating, type of equipment you plan to
bring, and that you are very flexable in regards to times of operating,
and any other bits of information you think might influnence or be of help
to the people in charge. In my case I would stress the fact that I would be
using extremely low power equipment and provide all my own equipment and
all I would need is connection to their antenna coax.
Anyway it could get you permission to do some operating. I know we spent two
full days at sea, well it was only supposed to be one but because of some
tax revolt in Dominica we could pull into that island, just well I didn't
want to become part of some island warfare anyway. But on the days when
the ship is out to sea there might be time when you could have access to
the spare antenna.
Like I said this was an old ship I don't know what the newer ones have in
the way of low band antennas. The operator I talked to kind of implied
that a lot of the ship to shore was handled by satellite now but some went
by way of low band. In fact he was talking to the AT&T operator in New York
as I came up to the window.
So that is what I would do if I wanted to try to operate a radio from sea.
Marty KD8BJ
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Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 02:01:00 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: digital speech transmission for HAMs?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Digital speach in the same bandwidth as an FM voice carrier is
not a problem with todays technology. (even yesterdays technology).
CVSD at 9.6 kbps is "not to bad" for male voices, if you prefilter
down to an appropriate bandwidth before sampling. Motorola has
a chipset to do CVSD ... just put in audio, and clock, and
out come bits. Some will say 9.6 CVSD sounds horrible, but then
so does SSB. 32 kbps CVSD can pass as nearly toll quality if the
channel error rate is low. With CVSD you also get a bonus of a
system that is fairly tolerant of bit errors.
LD-CELP at 16 kbps is the newest "toll quality" standard from
the ITU. It needs serious DSP, but it is as good as (or better
than according to some) sounding than 64 kbps PCM. Not sure if
there is a hardware solution to do this yet, but the algorithm
should be available from the ITU.
ADPCM standard is 32 kbps, but you can prefilter and lower the
sampleing rate and use it down to 9.6 kbps. At 9.6 kbps it still
sounds like normal voice and you can usually recognize the speaker,
and again if you're a male it's not to bad.
Then theres really low bit rate voice stuff, LPC, GSM and
others. Voice in down to 2400 bps. Now at 2400 bps everyone
sounds like an poor voice synthesizer but if moving voice
is what you want to do it works. If you're trying to get
broadcast quality audio program material down it you're
out of luck. At 4800 bps things get a little better, and
you may recognize the speakers voice if you know who it is.
Digital voice is something that more hams should be playing with.
(wish I had time to play more). With a sound blaster as an
input device, and a 9600 bps modem, digital voice would be
pretty cool!
im
Jargon translation:
CVSD: Continuously Variable Delta Modulation
PCM: Pulse Code Modulation
LD-CELP: Low Delay Code Excited Linear Predictive
ADPCM: Adaptive Delta PCM
LPC: Linear Predictive Coding
--
Ian A. McEachern, VE3PFH | This space for rent.
Packet Working Group, Ottawa A.R.C. |
im@hydra.carleton.ca |
ian@ve3pfh.ampr.org |
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Date: 6 May 94 15:27:16 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: FCC Still requires 1st Class License
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I guess that for some in the commercial radio world the FCC still
requires tha u hafta have a Radio Telegraph (commercial license).
Follows a recent FCC Order.................
Report No. GN-155 GENERAL ACTION
May 3, 1994
JOSEPH SAWCHUCK DENIED CANCELLATION OR REDUCTION OF
FORFEITURE
FOR FAILING TO HAVE REQUIRED FIRST CLASS
RADIOTELEGRAPH OPERATOR'S CERTIFICATE
The FCC has upheld an action by the Field Operations Bureau
and denied Joseph Sawchuck, IV,'s request for cancellation or
reduction of a forfeiture issued in the amount of $5,000 for
serving as the sole radio officer aboard a vessel in violation of
the Communications Act. The Act requires two radio officers on
board unless the radio officer has received a six month service
endorsement to his First-Class Radiotelegraph Operator's
Certificate.
Sawchuck served as sole radio officer aboard the vessel
PATRIOT without a required Six Months Service Endorsement. Seeking
review of the Bureau's assessment, Sawchuck argued that the
Bureau had failed to adequately consider and apply the proper
standard and downward adjustment criteria set forth in the
Commission's Policy Statement, Standards for Assessing Forfeitures.
Denying review, the Commission stated that Sawchuck had
failed to show that the Bureau erred in its findings of fact, or
misapplied the law and its policy to the facts. The Commission
said that all relevant facts were considered by the Bureau in
reaching its finding of liability for monetary forfeiture. Also,
the Commission found that the Bureau applied the correct standard
in determining Sawchuck's liability for forfeiture under the
Commission's Policy Statement, and all facts and circumstances
applicable to each of the criteria set out in the Policy
Statement.
Action by the Commission April 12, 1994, by Memorandum
Opinion and Order (FCC 94-87). Chairman Hundt, Commissioners
Quello and Barrett.
-FCC-
News Media contact: Patricia A. Chew at (202) 632-5050.
Field Operations Bureau contact: Ana J. Curtis at (202) 632-
7059.
Seth T. KC2WE, ex KZ5BA
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 02:41:34 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: How to make a diplexer?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
John E. Lundgren (jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu) wrote:
: That's not a diplexer schematic in the previous post. It's essentially a
: VHF / UHF splitter, which is really just hi pass and lo pass filters in
: the same box. Diplexers use exotic things like cavities and magic T's.
: What? You've never heard of a magic T?
The vocabulary used by 2-way radio folks uses the word "duplexers"
for the multi-cavity resonators used on repeaters. The word "diplexer" is
reserved for a device that combines two wider-spaced frequency bands, as
per the schematic in the previous post.
AL N1AL
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 01 May 1994 10:09:18 EST
From: murky.apple.com!mumbo.apple.com!Adrien_Glauser%magic-bbs.corp.apple.com@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: IC-02AT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I've heard that the IC-02AT can have it's Rx expanded from 140-151MHZ to
140-165MHz. Is this true and if so how is it done? I want to start
listening in on the Marine band as the fishing season will soon start.
73's
Adrien, VA3NJC
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Date: 6 May 1994 02:47:54 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!w1gsl@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Looking for IC725 Mods
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I am looking for any mods to a Icom IC725. I have allready tried the
data base at ftp.cs.buffalo and have found nothing.
Thanks in advance
73 Steve F
W1GSL
*******************************************************************************
Steve Finberg W1GSL w1gsl@mit.edu
PO Box 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 617 258 3754
*******************************************************************************
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Date: 6 May 94 13:52:44 GMT
From: gsm001!gsm001.mendelson.com!gsm@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Luck Hurder ... gone: ( Why?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
ted kell (tkell@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: I have seen a number of comments about needing to findout what the actual
: problem was before storming the Bastile. Well, I found the following
: during my wanderings about the net.
: 73
: Ted
: -0-
: Email from Luck Hurder 17 April 1994 to W4MLE and WA4PUP:
: "Those of you who know me well will immediately understand why
: I couldn't possibly abide by what follows, but for the record,
: my final conversation with Rick Palm was to the effect that yes,
: I would in fact abide by everything contained therein, PROVIDED
: that each and every ARRL HQ employee be asked to sign a similar
: document. They declined. Rick's last words to ME were, `then you
: give me no alternative but to terminate your employment'.
: 73 - Luck Hurder KY1T"
: ----------------------
For brevity I did not include the rest of the text of the message.
However I have several questions?
1. Who is Rick Palm?
2. Do my dues go to pay his salary?
3. Can I get a refund?
Seriously, Rick Palm needs to be shown that his policies are not acceptable
to the people who pay his salary. I would like to no longer pay his salary.
How do I go about doing this and still stay in the league?
Geoff.
P.S. I am in Philadelphia Pa. if that helps.
--
"I am number six. Others come and others go, but I am always number six."
(From the movie "Eminent Domain".)
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ (215) 242-8712 gsm@mendelson.com
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Date: 6 May 94 19:04:51 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@hplabs.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Luck Hurder ... gone: ( Why?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Geoffrey S. Mendelson (gsm@mendelson.com) wrote:
: Seriously, Rick Palm needs to be shown that his policies are not acceptable
: to the people who pay his salary. I would like to no longer pay his salary.
: How do I go about doing this and still stay in the league?
I have no idea what the real story is regarding Luck Hurder's parting of
the ways with ARRL. (I doubt anyone else on the net does either, other
than those directly involved.) But I can say that I have dealt with
Rick Palm several times in the past and found him to be competent,
professional and courteous.
AL N1AL
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Date: 6 May 94 17:29:35 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!lwjames@hplabs.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Non-existent ham software that should
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
We have antenna modelling, Spice, satellite tracking, contest logging, and
code practice software, but what software could hams use which is either
not available at all, or not available at a reasonable (shareware) price.
There are some of us out here who might write it inspired by your ideas.
KG0GB
lwjames@csn.org
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Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 02:51:23 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Old article
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Kenneth E. Harker (Kenneth.E.Harker@Dartmouth.Edu) wrote:
: I'm looking for an article entitled "Sonobaby" or with the word
: sonobaby in its title. All I know is that it was published in the ham
: radio literature of the 1960's (before I was born!). I've done enough
: searching to be fairly certain it wasn't in QST, but I haven't been
: able to find indexes for CQ, 73, or Ham Radio magazines. It was about
: converting the radio systems in surplus sonobuoys to VHF amateur use.
I would bet on CQ magazine. They very very big on converting all kinds
of surplus in those days.
AL N1AL
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Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 23:39:41 -0600
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: RB324 - OPS - Responding to a Call-Out
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Bid: $RACESBUL.324
Subject : RACES Bulletin #324
TO: ALL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCIES VIA AMATEUR RADIO
INFO ALL COMMUNICATIONS VOLUNTEERS IN GOVERNMENT SERVICE
INFO: ALL AMATEURS U.S (@USA: INFORMATION), CAP, MARS
FROM: CA GOVERNORS OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES
(W6SIG@WA6NWE.CA) Ph: 916-262-1600
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Landline BBS Open to All: 916-262-1657
RACESBUL.324 RELEASE DATE: May 2, 1994
Subject: OPS - Responding to a Call-Out
"...I might be willing to respond on something like the
Northridge quake, where there is no damage in my area. However I
am not about to leave my home unprotected, without gas,
electricity, water or telephone if there is looting and civil
unrest and the police are stretched so thin that they cannot
adequately cope."
Comments: In an emergency, our first concern is rightly
that of our family or other personal priority. There are and can
be instances where it is inappropriate to respond to any aspect
of a call-out. There are those, however, who have prepared their
families in what to do and how to cope so that they can respond
to a duty station and stay as long as needed (with adequate rest
periods inter-spersed as appropriate.) Such people will
literally go around almost any barrier to respond to the local
need if that is expected of them and they have been trained for
that response level. Essentially it depends on our personal
situation, perspective and preparedness; physical as well as
mental. It's our choice!
It may not be possible to make preparations for every
eventuality, but it starts with our personal view point. There
is no "right" or "wrong" perspective or reaction. Each must
chose. Experience does show that there are those whose
dedication is at such a level that the concerns expressed are
transcended by their own choice. It depends on ones personal
priorities. There are instances of response in face of total
personal loss, as well as all conditions in between. Again: it's
your choice. Whatever you chose is right for you.
EOM
-----------------
RACES Bulletins are archived on the Internet at ucsd.edu in hamradio/races
or in hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming and can be retrieved using FTP. The
opinions stated are those of the author of the bulletin and not the poster.
------------------------------
Date: 6 May 94 16:17:02 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ns.mcs.kent.edu!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!hypnos!voxbox!jgrubs@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Was this a bad idea?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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smithson@ACM.ORG writes:
> In article <2q9tks$npn@illuminati.io.com>, hoagy@illuminati.io.com (Sir Hoagy
> >
> >"This is unlicensed Matthew T. Rupert. I've got a bad accident
> > out here at <such and such>. Need ambulance and emergency response.
> > Will stand by and repeat"
> >
> >Since I was unlicensed, was it illegal for me to use my radio
> >on an amateur frequency for this situation?
> >
> It was technically illegal, but I do believe there are provisions in the law
> to accomodate 'good samaritan' actions.
No, it was NOT technically illegal! The Communications Act
specifically states <paraphrased> that in the event of threats
to human health or safety or desctruction of property anything
reasonable goes.
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Date: 6 May 94 18:55:22 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: why not on CD? (was: Best code-speed improvement tapes?)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>Without question, the ARRL tapes are the best. I bought some others
y'know, it's interesting that these sorts of things aren't on CD's yet. solves
the print-through problem that tapes have and you could use the "shuffle"
function on many players to avoid overuse of a session (resulting in
memorization of a passage rather that acquiring the skill).
i'm working with a couple of guys now that are producing music and they
decided to do it on CD rather than tape for their first release because:
1) not much cost differential (slightly more for CD)
2) best possible sound
3) least wear/breakage in handling
4) room for more artwork in the CD jewel box than the CC jewel box
5) preferred format for collectors & radio stations these days.
you could even make a double disc set with the sounds of radio and a morse
trainer on disk 1 and disk 2 being just nothing but morse code (99 separate
lessons). 74 minutes is a long time and is roughly equal to the average
cassette (C-120s never did seem to work for much else other than record and
play all the way through -- start cueing and jumping around and they tended to
stretch and break...)
bill wb9ivr
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